1965 MZ ES175/1 Pleuelsatz ???

[adlermb200]

Ich möchte ein Pleuel für meine ES175/1 Satz kaufen.
Kennt jemand überall dort kann ich kaufen?
Vielen Dank

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I would like to buy a conrod set for my ES175/1.
Does anyone know wher I can buy one?
Thank you

[Christof]

Original Connecting Rods for ES175/1 aren`t aviable anymore. But the original Connecting Rod can be replaced by one of the TS 250/1. They got the same dimensions the ES 175/1-rod has. The only difference ist the bearing of the gudgeon pin. Original a bronze sleeve is installed but the TS 250/1-rod got a neadle bearing. Additionally the TS 250/1-rod will be delivered with two bronze dishes, wich won`t be needed in the ES 175/1. Ask him for new genuine arts, he also got genuine connecting rods for the TS 250/1.

http://mzsimson.de/index.php/deu/_/_/cf ... 81abe18/?_

Please don't try replica connecting rods of the TS 250/1. Often they are signed for TS 250/1 but got a drilled crank pin in the big end bearing. These crank pins schouldn't be installed in a ES 175/1 because they will cause high engine vibrations.

[adlermb200]

Original Connecting Rods for ES175/1 aren`t aviable anymore. But the original Connecting Rod can be replaced by one of the TS 250/1. They got the same dimensions the ES 175/1-rod has. The only difference ist the bearing of the gudgeon pin. Original a bronze sleeve is installed but the TS 250/1-rod got a neadle bearing. Additionally the TS 250/1-rod will be delivered with two bronze dishes, wich won`t be needed in the ES 175/1. Ask him for new genuine arts, he also got genuine connecting rods for the TS 250/1.

http://mzsimson.de/index.php/deu/_/_/cf ... 81abe18/?_

Please don't try replica connecting rods of the TS 250/1. Often they are signed for TS 250/1 but got a drilled crank pin in the big end bearing. These crank pins schouldn't be installed in a ES 175/1 because they will cause high engine vibrations.

Christof, thank you for your very detailed reply. It is most helpful. I need to ask some question to ensure I have everything clear.

So, I can use an original TS250/1 connecting rod, but you do not recommend using a replica connecting rod because they have a drilled big end crank pin and not a solid crank pin. Is this correct?

An original TS250/1 connecting rod will not have the correct bronze sleeve for my piston gudgeon pin. Will the needle roller bearing fit my gudgeon pin? Or will I have to modify the original TS250/1 to accept a bronze bush which will fit my gudgeon pin? If the needle roller bearing fits, then that is very good news.

Is this an original connecting rod kit, or is it a replica? :-

http://mzsimson.de/index.php/deu/1/_/mf ... to=contact

Pleuelreparatursatz TS 250/1 5 Gang
Best.-Nr: K60264
Pleuel, Pleuelbolzen,Anlaufscheiben, Pleuelllager und Kolbenbolzenlager.28 mm Hubzapfen
ET-Katalog-Bild-Nr.: 16

Thank you for any help you can give.

[Guesi]

The one you mentioned above is a replica.
Originals are only on special demand

GüSi
www.mzsimson.de

[Ralle]

Offtopic:

Originals are only on special demand

SPOILER:

...or payola maybe

[adlermb200]

Hi GüSi, so how do I get one of the "special demond" ones?

Cheers
Phil
Please send me a message.
Thanks

[Christof]

So, I can use an original TS250/1 connecting rod, but you do not recommend using a replica connecting rod because they have a drilled big end crank pin and not a solid crank pin. Is this correct?

Yes and please contact guesi for an original one.

An original TS250/1 connecting rod will not have the correct bronze sleeve for my piston gudgeon pin. Will the needle roller bearing fit my gudgeon pin? Or will I have to modify the original TS250/1 to accept a bronze bush which will fit my gudgeon pin? If the needle roller bearing fits, then that is very good news.

You can use the TS250/1-rod with the neadle bearing without any changes. The gudeon pin of the ES-piston fits normaly perfect in those delivered neadle bearings, so the sleeve won't be needed anymore. After the installation of the TS-rod, you are also able to use 1:50 mixture!

[adlermb200]

So, I can use an original TS250/1 connecting rod, but you do not recommend using a replica connecting rod because they have a drilled big end crank pin and not a solid crank pin. Is this correct?

Yes and please contact guesi for an original one.

An original TS250/1 connecting rod will not have the correct bronze sleeve for my piston gudgeon pin. Will the needle roller bearing fit my gudgeon pin? Or will I have to modify the original TS250/1 to accept a bronze bush which will fit my gudgeon pin? If the needle roller bearing fits, then that is very good news.

You can use the TS250/1-rod with the neadle bearing without any changes. The gudeon pin of the ES-piston fits normaly perfect in those delivered neadle bearings, so the sleeve won't be needed anymore. After the installation of the TS-rod, you are also able to use 1:50 mixture!

Christof, your help and that of Gusi has been invaluable. I have ordered the correct con rod and a gasket set. The motor rebuild wil begin in appoximately 3 weeks and at the same time I shall strip the motorcycle down for repainting in the correct 1965 blue/grey colour with an ivory pin stripe.

Thank you both for your help. Restoring German motorcycles in the UK brings with it a set of problems which restorers of British motorcycles don't appreciate. Help such as yours is much appreciated.

Thanks again
Phil

[Christof]

The motor rebuild wil begin in appoximately 3 weeks and at the same time I shall strip the motorcycle down for repainting in the correct 1965 blue/grey colour with an ivory pin stripe.

You are welcome if you got any problems with the engine or the Crankshaft. If you are interessted in a rebuild of a grey/blue colored ES 250/1 then look at this threat:

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=40041

Weren't you in glesien, last year? We spoke a view times about the ETS in great britain. Do you remember?